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bra cam folks say theirs is. >> eyes up. come on, eyes up. >> reporter: we should note it wasn't just men and women they caught staring. it was a disapproving toddler and a dog. so the dog acting like men or are the men acting like dogs? whatever you do, don't try to stop the camera by pressing buttons. jeanne moos, cnn, new york. >> not into that one, sorry, jeanne moos. thanks for joining me today. i'm carol costello. "@this hour with berman and michaela" starts now. >> in the unlikely event that someone with ebola does reach our shores we've taken new measures so that we're prepared here at home. >> well, a case has reached our shores. ebola has been diagnosed in the u.s.. are we prepared? what you need to know about this deadly virus. >> then, a new secret service blunder. how an armed man road the elevator with the president of
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the united states. that happened just three days before a man with a knife in his pocket jumped the fence at the white house and got inside. serious questions today. is the team hired to protect the president putting his life at risk? and in california, a mayor shot dead by his wife. authorities are calling it a domestic dispute, but the wife was not charged. in fact, she's been released. >> hello, i'm john berman. >> and i'm michaela pereira. >> faced with the first ever ebola diagnosis on u.s. soil, health officials in texas are now scrambling trying to track down every person who came in contact with the person of the man who brought ebola here. this could be days and days worth of interaction. it is a big job and time is critical to prevent this virus from spreading. this is what we know about the unnamed patient. he left the ebola hot spot of
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liberia on september 19 arriving in dallas texas the next day. he did not feel sick until four days later. a couple days after that he sought treatment but it wasn't until the 28th that he was hospitalized and isolated in dallas. >> we need to point out, he was sent home, but then yesterday the cdc confirmed that this patient is, indeed, infected with ebola, thus the urgent need for so-called contact tracing. this is when officials try to locate and monitor every single person who came into contact with that patient. earlier today, i spoke with cdc director dr. thomas frieden and our chief medical correspondent dr. sanjay gupta. we started off talking about the importance of this tracking down of all the patient contacts. take a listen. >> we go from the moment he could have been inif he cfectio 24th last wednesday and we retrace every step, every contact where he might have had
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direct physical contact with somebody and for each one of those contacts we will monitor them for 21 days after exposure in conjunction with the local and state health department and the hospital to see if they develop symptoms. that's how you stop an ebola outbreak. that's what we will do in this case. there is no doubt in my mind that we can stop it in its tracks here. >> you feel confident of that? because there are a lot of people waking up to this news this morning realizing a patient has been diagnosed in the united states of america, he is on soil here in america, he is in a u.s. hospital and there's going to be concern. you can understand that? >> absolutely. but you know the plain truth is we've stopped this outbreak dozens of times in africa in much more difficult conditions. in fact, even in lagos where there were almost 900 contacts identified and about 19,000 home visits to monitor for fever. we were able, it appears, to contain the outbreak.
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so there's no doubt we can contain it here but really we need to continue to engage with west africa because the most efficient and effective way in the long term to make sure that we don't have to worry about this is to stop it at the source and that's what we're doing. >> and i do want to get to you in a moment about screening and if there is a potential for ding that before people get on the plane from liberia. sanjay, i want to turn to you because i know one of the things you're concerned about as a medical professional is the fact that this is patient came to the u.s., felt ill, went to hospital and even voiced concerns about ebola yet was sent home. >> yeah, that is a concern. if you look at the timeline now, the patient arrived on the 20th by all reports and was feeling fine at that time. four days later this person became ill, two days after that they went to the hospital seeking medical care but it wasn't until two days later then so four days total of sickness
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before the person came into the hospital. and let me ask you, dr. frieden, this person goes to the hospital on the 26th, has this travel history, has symptoms at this time. should they have been tested? >> that's one of the things we'll be looking at but we're reiterating the message for every health worker in this country to think about travel history. if someone has been in west africa within 21 days and they have a fever, immediately isolate them and get them tested for ebola. >> i appreciate that this is an ongoing situation, but what is the guidance? should that person have been tested? >> we weren't there so i can't tell you exactly what that person said. >> you're advising public health departments, last time i was here there was a call with my primary care doctors to educate them on this exact issue. that was a couple of months ago. should this person have been tested? >> we know that in busy emergency departments all over the country people may not ask travel histories. i don't know if that was done here but we need to make sure that it is done going forward. that's the bottom line. >> because right now this could be playing out right now in
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other emergency rooms around the country, this exact situation where there could be somebody who has a fever, ends up having ebola but they're not test ed a a result they have many, many more contacts. >> it's a big country and a big health care system, that's why we do extensive outreach to provide information so all over the country people are thinking about that and if people come in they can get their history taken, have you been in west africa in the past 21 days and if they have a fever immediate isolation and testing. we've already fielded about 100 calls about patients from around the country who may fit that description, only 14 of them met criteria for testing and this is the first positive test. >> and, again, i went belabor that point but we've been covering this story for a long time and i imagine the fact that there's -- it sounds like somebody fell down on the job, to be perfectly frank, over there in dallas. this person came in with concerns about ebola themselves, had this travel history, had symptoms and was not tested. that meant for two extra day
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this is person could have been more contacts and i imagine that if you look at all the priorities, that's the number-one priority. that's the number-one thing you would have hoped to have prevented. >> we're joined by our chief medical correspondent dr. sanjay gupta outside the cdc. sanj sanjay, since you had that conversation, we have learned this hospital did not ask the man whether he had been to liberia or west africa nor did that man volunteer it. so clearly -- i mean, do you think there is some kind of breakdown in the proetd kohls here? >> i think there's no question there was and it's too bad because in so many ways there's been months now that they have had to prepare for this. john, i think you and i talked about this a few months ago even when i was in guinea at that at some point this exact situation will happen. there will be a patient who arrives in the united states and is diagnosed with ebola. my point is that there's been plenty of time to prepare for this sort of thing and the fact that there's a lot of difficult
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challenges, obviously, in taking care of patients with ebola, but getting a simple travel history, being able to identify those patients who are high risk, that's one of the easy things. that's lower down on the list that, you know, we -- that should have happened here and as a result you have a patient who for at least two extra days was out and about. how many contacts that person had we're not sure but it should have been zero. that's sort of the point here. >> but you know, so interesting, i was just saying to john anecdotally, sanjay, you've given blood. one of the questions they've asked you is where you've traveled or what your sexual orientation is. they ask you those questions when you're giving blood, it's standard operating procedure. you'd think since this alert travel history would be standard operating procedure. >> this person went to the hospital so there was enough of a concern, certainly on the patient's part, pretty sick, i'm going to go to the hospital. it is -- there's so many questionnaires. you've been to hospitals. there's so many questionnaires
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you fill out before getting seen. we're sorry for those questionnaires but now you can see the point a little bit that a basic question like this, where are you from? where have you traveled from recently. the last few countries you visited. you've filled out those things hundreds of times, probably never thought about them. they can make a difference and i think this case they may have made a difference as well. the one good thing is i mean we're talking about this, hopefully all the other primary care doctors out there who have heard this messaging for some time, it's taken on an added level of importance now. the travel history so important in terms of figuring out who these patients are. >> sanjay, to be clear, we here in a crucial few days right now. they're doing this contact tracing where they're going through that four-day gap between when he was systematic and ultimately isolated trying to find every person he may have come in contact with. >> family, et cetera. >> it's a challenging laborious process and i will tell you, part of the reason the numbers have continued to grow in west africa is because they're trying to do that same process in west africa, much more challenging.
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people moving around a lot, not clear channels of communication or clear roads even. here it should be easier but still a challenge. one thing is that you know he was sick, there's a good chance he wasn't out and about. he may have gone back home. his family, obviously, is going to be contacted, they'll try and figure out anyone else he may have come in contact with. the health care providers on the 26th of september when he went into the hospital, who are they? have they been contacted as well? so there's a process. >> certainly is a process, a meticulous one, a time consuming one but you mentioned time is of the essence. dr. sanjay gupta, thank you so much. we want to tell you at home that you likely have questions and concerns about ebola. we understand that. so send us your questions. send us a tweet at #ebola q&a. another secret service
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mistake revealed. a new one. an armed man allowed to ride an elevator with the president of the united states. serious real questions now about whether the secret service can keep this president safe. hannah graham, sadly, is not the first young woman to go missing in a virginia college town. police are looking at other disappearances and murder cases in the area and wondering if they could be connected. there are questions if this is the work of a serial killer. big day? ah, the usual. moved some new cars. hauled a bunch of steel. kept the supermarket shelves stocked. made sure everyone got their latest gadgets. what's up for the next shift? ah, nothing much. just keeping the lights on. (laugh) nice. doing the big things that move an economy. see you tomorrow, mac. see you tomorrow, sam. just another day at norfolk southern.
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. >> remember president obama took a trip to the cdc in atlanta last month? a security contractor who operated an elevator the president took had a gun. the officers might not have even known if they hadn't gotten upset with the man for taking pictures. >> so this was three days before the shocking video of a white house intruder jumping the fence, getting through white house doors before being tackle bid an off duty secret service. now this news didn't come until the secret service director was raked over the coals for other lapses. dan, i was talking to a white house insider, someone who worked closely with the past president who said that elevator is one of the most protected. there are a serious protocol
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just to get into the elevator with the president is supposed to be incredibly difficult but this man with a gun waltzes in, a guy who had been taking pictures. that's a huge breakdown. >> your source is absolutely correct. manifests are done for anyone going on an elevator with the potus. also with anyone regards to where they'll be, if they'll be in close proximity, they're supposed to be name checked through ncic. if it comes back with a hit, in other words if that person has a criminal history, they are not allowed anywhere near the president during the visit. in terms of weapons, the only people allowed to have a weapon around the president other than secret service would be sworn law enforcement officers who are working that movement in conjunction with the secret service. >> what i think is interesting to so many of us, we know the
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light is starkly focused right now on the secret service. the director is in front of this house committee answering tough questioning and yet this information was not revealed until after. it makes you wonder, then, did she know? maybe dan you can help us understand what is the protocol. would the director have known about a lapse, an egregious lapse, arguably, that put the president in potential harm's way. would she have been told about this? and if so, why did she come forward with this yesterday on the hill? >> well, director pierson certainly should have been briefed on an incident regarding a non-clear person with a firearm standing next to the president. that would have been the job of the special agent in charge of the presidential protective division or the intelligence division. at any rate, she should have been briefed and she should have in turn briefed the president. >> dan, there are a lot of people now asking in light of all of these incidents, are we doing this the right way?
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is the secret service even the right agency to be protecting the president? you've written a provocative piece saying you think the military should be involved. >> that didn't go over well with a lot of people. what i'm advocating is that the military as they did during world war ii simply augment the existing security at the white house, not that they take it over. so there's precedent there. also if you like at camp david, camp david where the president goes almost every weekend is protected and guarded by the u.s. marine corps. so this is not like a really crazy idea but during a time of war such as we now find ourselves in the secret service is simply not equipped or trained to handle an organized military-style attack on the white house. so i think that asking for the help of the military would be the prudent thing to do right about now. >> there's an interesting article. we should let people read it for themselves. you can get it online.
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before we go, we have a short amount of time left. do you think director pierson will survive this? do you think she should step down? >> when you have an organization like the secret service that's had this many blunders or failure failures the top leadership needs to go. because right now within the secret service that is at an all time low but if you have a commander who is not leading the troops well and they're failing in their mission then you have to look at replacing them. >> it's clearly trouble in the ranks. someone is leaking like a sieve. >> and we expect more stories to come out. >> that tells you where morale is. dan emmett, great to have you. >> quickly, she was appointed by president obama so i doubt if he is going to ask her to step aside. if she does so it would be of her own volition. >> we'll have to wait and see as far as that goes. they can't survive this much drip, drip, drip. dan, thanks so much. ahead at this hour, police
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have a suspect in the case of missing student hannah graham. but what about some cases that seem awfully similar now? emptying these case files, authorities looking at potential connections. a lot of people wondering if this could be a serial killer at work.
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>> very relieved to know that he will be prevented from ever hurting another girl again. i don't have a desire to tear him limb from limb or hurt him. i want to prevent him from hurting anybody else. >> four young women, fall close proximity in virginia, two them them found dead. >> we just heard morgan harrington's mother saying she just wants to make sure no other young woman is hurt. we want to turn to jack levin, a criminologist at northeastern university. thank you so much for joining us. we know the sheriff's office is looking at this possible dna link between hannah graham suspect jesse matthew and the morgan harrington case.
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give an ideal as a criminologist, what characteristics and facts jump out to you? >> first of all i'm hoping they have dna to connect these cases. we want to reduce linkage blindness. this case of hannah graham's disappearance may prove to give us some idea that there was one person responsible for the death and abduction of many of these women and one man possibly at virginia tech since 2005. however, there's more to it than that. dna is important. it's the most definitive evidence we have. but at the same time, when the investigators search the home of this suspect, they may be looking for trophies, mementos,
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souvenirs. we see these crimes as hideous offenses, and they are, now the killer this -- these crimes are his greatest accomplishments and like a major league baseball player who wants to collect the home run baseballs, this killer, if he indeed is responsible for these crimes, may collect mementos and souvenirs to remind him of the good times he had creating suffering and pain with his victims. he reminisces with jewelry and clothing and even body parts of his victims that he keeps in his home. that may be the evidence that becomes the forensic link in this case. >> you brought up a big "if" there because right now all we are being told by law enforce system they found a forensic link which they think is dna between the hannah graham case and perhaps the morgan harrington case. then they tell us they're looking at possible links between honestly a handful of other missing persons or murder
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cases in virginia over the last several years. so my question to you here, is it just due diligence. is this what you do any time you start pulling on this thread, when off suspect or n one or two cases, do you start looking at all the open case there is but do they have evidentiary reason to believe there's a serial killer in play here. >> i think just the opposite is true. there's a lot of pressure on police investigators to solve the cases that are happening right now so they're going to look for the person responsible for the abduction of hannah graham. but they're cold cases and what happens over time is that the pressure is reduced. people forget about those cases. so i'm really happy that the police are looking at the possible links, connections, for all of these cases. >> i think we just lost jack.
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but he makes a really good point. it is -- the attention on this case is allowing attention on those other cases that have been cold for some time and it is really concerning that that area along route 29 in virginia that so many people, so many women, young women, are unaccounted for. they're missing. it's a devastating thing for those families, for the community thinking that somebody could potentially still be out there. we don't know. >> and we can't forget we hope this all leads ultimately maybe to finding hannah graham. >> let us hope. we have to keep hope alive. all right, back to ebola, the first ebola patient diagnosed in the u.s. is in isolation in dallas. some people are a little concerned, maybe some people are even panicking. lots of questions, though. we'll try to answer those ahead at this hour. [ female announcer ] we lowered her fever.
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so at this hour, health officials in texas are scrambling to track down and locate everyone who came into contact with the first person ever diagnosed with ebola in the u.s.. now, this is a critical step in preventing the virus from spreading. the unidentified patient right now is in an isolation ward in dallas in a hospital there we're told he's in critical condition. this is what we do know about him. he left the ebola hot spot of liberia september 19, arriving in dallas, texas, the next day.
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he did not feel sick until four hours later. he then went to the hospital and then was sent home. it wasn't until the 28th, though, that he was hospitalized and put into isolation in dallas. >> and it was yesterday that the cdc confirmed that the patient is, indeed, infected with ebola. dr. anthony fauci, the director of the national institutes of health, points to a red flag that was missed during the patient's first trip to the emergency room. >> if someone comes into an emergency facility, i mean, that happening thousands of times a day throughout the country but what we need to get the word out even more is a simple travel history. so if the emergency room physician had asked this person do you have any recent travel outside of the country and if the person said well, i just came back from liberia, that would have been an enormous red flag for anybody given the publicity that we have. >> just a huge red flag, but we have been told he was not, in fact, asked in that first trip
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to the emergency room. i want to bring in our senior medical correspondent elizabeth cohen. she is outside texas health presbyterian hospital where the ebola patient is now being treated. elizabeth, what do we know about the condition of this man? >> we now know that he is in stable condition so that's certainly an improvement from critical to stable. we've talked before about how ebola is obviously a very deadly illness, but if managed properly, people can survive. we certainly saw that with the two u.s. patients who were at emory in august. >> it's interesting to hear dr. fauci say that travel history that included travel from liberia would be a huge red flag. interestingly, you just got back from liberia. i'm curious what your screening was like. what did you encounter along the way? >> you know what, michaela? it was interesting. in monrovia, in liberia at the airport, they were scrupulous about checking. we had our temperature checked three times before we were
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allowed on the plane, once in the car as we were driving into the airport and then twice in the airport et cetera. we were asked about our exposure, did we meet anyone with ebola, did we wash bodies, attend burials? we were asked if we had diarrhea or vomiting et cetera and nurses looked at us. you could tell the nurses were looking because they know people lie sometimes and they want to look and see does this person look sick. if so you're sent on for more screening. when i arrived in the u.s., our temperatures were not taken. none of that happen ed so we returned this past saturday, myself and my two fellow crew members, we told them web in liberia covering ebola, we told them that, no questions about exposures. they did ask me, hey, for 21 days -- or they told me, for 21 days you should watch and see if you develop symptoms of ebola but they couldn't tell me what those symptoms were. they did not ask my photographer
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and producer who were there with me. curiously, they did check our photographers' shoes for mud which would have nothing to do with ebola. michaela, john? >> that's so interesting. now they're doing this contact tracing where they're trying to go through every person that this ebola patient may have had contact with in those four days that he was symptomatic but not isolating. you know, are you confident, elizabeth, they can get to every such person? >> you know, i -- i feel like they've got a lot of boots on the ground, they have at in point about 11 cdc members here to help with that contact tracing. there's excellent infrastructure in this country so they can go out there and talk to these people, put them in quarantine if they need to. there is a little question in the back of my mind when you ask someone who did you have contact with, is he going to remember everybody? is it possible he might want to protect -- i don't know that i would. is it possible he might want to -- i don't want to ascribe
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bad motives but we might want to protect somebody and not mention them for fear the authorities will come after them. i have some concerns. >> there's the other question, if you can compel somebody to be tested and that's something i think we want to explore a little further. hey, we want to take advantage of advantage that you're here with us and get with us toens some of the questions that we've been getting from our viewers. they've been using the twitter hashtag #ebolaqanda. you can do this throughout the day on cnn. >> our first question "is it possible for ebola to spread via mosquitoses? like malaria and not to mention a whole bunch of other diseases. if not, why not? >> i reached out to an expert about this and he said they don't think mosquito spread ebola. in fact, they're quite sure. here's why. yo ebola has been around for 40 something years. when you look at who gets it,
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it's close contact. if you look at people who are getting it, they know who they got it from, a family member. et cetera. >> next question is have somebody using the handle "debatable." and this is a really good point. "if it takes 21 days for someone to show symptoms, have have they cleared the ems who transported the patient on 9/28." they're talking about the ambulance crew that would have transported the patient from dallas there. they have been give an clear. they were tested negative for ebola. how could that be? >> i'm not sure that they were given a clear. they may have tested negative but i will tell you a negative test doesn't mean anything. if you have -- if you're infected with ebola but not yet showing symptoms, you're going to test negative. you only test positive when you start having symptoms. and even then for the first day or two it takes a while for it to kick in. so, again, you're going to be
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negative until you have symptoms so i highly doubt that they tested these people who were told they're all well, got a negative result and said "see ya" and sent them on their way. >> so they'll keep monitoring them? >> right. they're monitoring them and telling them to take their temperature and all of that. so i don't think they are in the clear. >> elizabeth cohen, fantastic. thanks so much for joining us. you'll be a busy lady for the next few days for sure. continuing to you at home, if you want to use #ebolaqanda at this hour. >> i have a lot more questions myself. >> a thousand, and ethical questions, too. ahead, we'll talk about the ethical questions, how concerned should we be? how do hospitals need to respond to that concern? we'll talk to one of the most preeminent medical ethicists about thosish views in screening to bending medical privacy rules. and this man. he was the mayor of a california town. he was shot to death by his
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in the unlikely event that someone with ebola does reach our shores, we've taken new measures so we're prepared here at home. >> that was president obama speaking in mid-september at the cdc. he called it an unlikely scenario that someone in the united states would end up with ebola but we know it's a reality. a patient with a confirmed case of ebola is in isolation being treated at a hospital in dallas. >> joining us right now, arthur kaplan, director of the division of medical ethics at nyu's langone medical center. professor, great to have you here to talk about the ethical issues that are coming up. you've written an article saying that you get ebola flashing on the breaking news banners, et
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cetera, americans are going to panic. you say hold on, let's slow our roll a little bit here. >> right. no reason to panic. reason to pay attention, no doubt about that, but not panic. why? the disease is tough to transmit, the authorities are tracing everybody that this guy came in contact with. so i don't think there's a reason to panic at all. that we shouldn't be doing. >> panic is never a good response. >> it's a bad response. >> generally. >> but i think it's obviously of concern and of note that this disease that was not here before is now here and someone has it. >> and it came in on an airplane as opposed to bringing somebody here. >> you do say the ethical things we need to face, let me give you a list. rigorously screening plane and ship passengers. publicizing hospital procedures. clarifying the rights of patients' relatives. deciding who pays for treatment of the uninsured. and considering bending medical privacy rules. i think number five there is the one that will flash out for a lot of people. why bend privacy rules?
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>> we have a lot of speeches. we've seen cdc and nih and many officials say "don't worry, we're tracing, we're doing this and that." normally it wouldn't be anybody's business who you saw, how you went to the hospital and so on. but in this situation to avoid the panic i think you have to earn the trust and i think we should get more information. i don't need this guy's name. i don't need his family's name. i don't need to know where they live but when he got to the airport did he take a taxi. if he went in a taxi did he go to a restaurant? if he went to a restaurant and the hospital how did he get there? tell that story in more detail because then you get people saying, look, no one did get sick, i trust what they're telling me. what i'm worried about is you can't presume trust in what the public health officials say, you have to earn the trust. so a little more information. >> i wanted to ask you about something that you made a point of asking both john and i as you sat down. he looked at us and said "you guys got your flu shot?" and i thought you were going off on a tangent but you say there's
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a connection to this. >> there's a tight connection. why? what are the symptoms of ebola? flu-like symptoms. i know a lot of people are paying attention to this but a lot of people who have flu like symptoms, i better go to the e.r. because maybe i've got ebola. they didn't hear us say "you weren't near africa." they just heard flu-like symptoms. get the flu shot, rule it out, gets it out of the way. so it's a strange connection but an important one. >> you are an point voice of reason, professor caplan. thank you very much for coming in and talking us to. >> my pleasure. >> i'm afraid we may have to do it again because we'll face these issues for some time in the united states. >> thank you. ahead at this hour, police say the mayor of a los angeles suburb was shot to death by his wife but she had not been charged with any crime. why is that? what led up to this? we have a live report ahead. it d where the reward was that new car smell and the freedom of the open road? a card that gave you that "i'm 16 and just got my first car" feeling.
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the home between the mayor and his wife, levette. it became very heated. their 19-year-old son, present at the time, he tried to intervene. it became a physical fight between the mayor's son and the mayor. the wife, levette, left the room, somehow came back with a handgun. we don't know who owns this handgun. and she shot her husband four times. it's important to note that the mayor also has a job as a probation officer in that region. so we don't know exactly what happened after that, what neighbors do tell us is that they heard the son screaming. they called the police. the mayor and his wife, married 28 years. high school sweethearts. she was briefly taken into custody but homicide detectives released her. john? >> so the question, kyung, then, is why wasn't she charged? do we know anything about the circumstances? >> reporter: very good question. it's a natural question. we just don't know why the detectives had not specifically
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let's take you to oakland county, california, and tell you about a problem called hack the hood. it's the latest in our series. matt came to america when he was just a year old. >> my parents fought on the side of the united states during the vietnam war. they were imprisoned for eight years. i'm a product of two refugees that endured a lot of hardships to get me here to america. >> reporter: but chasing the american dream wasn't always easy. >> we were living in oakland in apartments and my mom was robbed with a gun to her head. >> reporter: ho says his escape was to play video games and he taught himself how to write computer code. the youngest of six, he sees his
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siblings struggle. >> all my brothers worked two jobs and my sisters worked all day from 9:00 to 7:00 at a nail salon. >> reporter: at 21 ho, ho is on a different pack. he joined hack the hood, a program that teaches students how to build websites for businesses. >> we work with kids of color. >> when i first came to hack the hood, i was lost. i had the skills to code but i didn't have an outlet to put my work out there. >> reporter: ho designed several websites including one for woody's cafe and laundromat. ho is now studying computer science at u.c. davis. he's the first in his family to go to college. >> when i graduate, i'm planning on maybe starting a start-up company. my first real investment is going to be buying my parents a house. i feel like that's going to make them really proud. >> follow that guy.
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i have a feeling we're going to be hearing from him on the billionaires' list in a few years. >> google awarded hack the hood with $500,000. that allows the organization to train more than 5,000 young people. we hope the spreading will happen there. let's not forget that's the first kid in his family to go to college. that's a big deal for that family and that community. we're talking about kids. one of the biggest problems we have in our schools right now, bullying. today, the 1st of october, kicks off national bullying prevention month. yesterday i had the opportunity to host a panel conversation with some educators. cartoon network set up this website and this whole platform called "stop bullying, speak up." their goal is for 1 million kids, parents, educators, celebrities, newscasters to submit videos vowing to speak up if they witness someone being bullied. you can take the pledge yourself or spread the word on twitter.
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>> what a great cause that is. >> it was really interesting. you know this one researcher told us in the 13 years she's researched, only four families admitted that they had a child that was a bully. think about how many victims there were. >> right. that's it for us. thanks for watching. i'm john berman. >> i'm michaela pereira. see you tomorrow. hello, everyone. i'm ashleigh banfield. we are dedicating the next hour of cnn's programming to ebola coverage because by now you probably know the first person to come down with ebola and be diagnosed with it inside the united states is in serious condition at a dallas hospital. and what no one can say for sure right now is whether there will be a second or a third or any more cases. someone or many someones harboring the dreadedla

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